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Postby Synne Industries » Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:05 pm

The Alkdorian Empire wrote:Well, it’s not like I said it was work in progress or anything. Of course, it is poorly designed. It’s a draft before I get to finalizing it. If you have suggestions to aide with writing a cosmic being I’m all ears.

Like seriously, I am. I’ve been wanting to write such a character but I just don’t know how and it’s frustrating. As my lore demands it.


I'm by no means and expert but when you want to write a 'cosmic being' (whatever that entails), you really have to take into account how it's going to sit in your universe.

>As my lore demands it.

This, this is what I don't know and what you need to figure out if you want to write this in a way which works. Now generalizing the term 'cosmic being' as some sort of insurmountable or omnipotent or generally "powerful" force, you need to take into consideration how this is going to interact with your verse' and if you're planning on using it/them/whatever in forum interactions, how things are going to interact with everyone else. Generally you want to impose limitations of sorts in what is and isn't going to happen and this is not limited to direct limitations in capability. Yes, whatever you may be writing could have the capability to do whatever whenever on paper but in practice you have to nail-down exactly what is going to happen. Does it have to do with how the thing thinks? Does it even think in the conventional sense at those 'high cosmic scales'? Perhaps this post-thought state can be leveraged by parties 'below' this being to trick its automatic functions into benefiting them. In general I feel like it's best to treat things at this scale less as characters or people and more like tools, laws, or mechanisms with defined functions in relation to defined situations. At a certain point you may end up with something which more or less functions as another key aspect of reality, a fundamental force or the likes. Now the important part of actually integrating the 'cosmic being' into canon is figuring out how it's going to work from a worldbuilding perspective if it's going to work at all. Does your world have a place for this sort of 'being'? Eldritch horrors don't pop-into every single narrative setting because theoretically they 'simply can'. You are the grand authority over your own work, find out if the inclusion is going to be good for your writing. Is the 'being' going to drive some sort of plot? Are there interesting interactions between the being's consequences and the current verse'? Does the 'being' break the tone of the setting? Just get this figured out so that you can actually get the addition going smoothly in-verse', something as big as a 'cosmic being' if the thing's actually going to have consequences is going to be rather jarring if you don't handle the introduction of it into the verse' well. Now if you're planning on bringing this into universes other than your own, a bit more thought is going to have to go into it. In your own verse' you can get away with stating capabilities and not elaborating, in RPs doing that is a good way to get booted-out if not rejected. If you're going to use it to interact, make sure you have a good system for cross-universe interaction, even if it's only for that. Having at least a framework for a system establishes ways to reason whether something or something else is going to happen, it allows for discussion with other participants rather than just shouting matches. I know working out reasoning for something which isn't conventionally supposed to conform to human reason is a bit tone-breaking but it's really the only thing you can do if you want to bring whatever you're writing into a proper RP environment.
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Postby The Alkdorian Empire » Sun Jun 27, 2021 1:05 pm

The Black Remnant wrote:
The Alkdorian Empire wrote:Well, it’s not like I said it was work in progress or anything. Of course, it is poorly designed. It’s a draft before I get to finalizing it. If you have suggestions to aide with writing a cosmic being I’m all ears.

Like seriously, I am. I’ve been wanting to write such a character but I just don’t know how and it’s frustrating. As my lore demands it.


Alright, let's take it from the top.
Judging from what you've said prior, this god is the head of a pantheon and a mighty powerful one at that, having created everything in their universe.
First off, cut the omniverse and multiverse gibberish. That stuff in general can feel wayyyy out of scale for something focused on a single nation or even a single setting unless it is a core part of it i.e. a time loop or reflection of reality or includes things like Doom's Hell and Urdak, Stranger Things' Upside Down, Minecraft's Nether and End, etc etc

Second of all, consider the dynamic of the pantheon itself. do the gods constantly struggle for supremacy, vying for worship and power among the mortals, or is it a peaceful affair presided over by the eldest of them? If the former, perhaps "Brapture" is powerful only because he is at the highest peak of the pantheon, but could be toppled any day by one of the lesser Gods. If the latter, is he a father figure, a sibling, or something more?

If he is a supposedly omnipotent being, let's tone that down-if part of a pantheon, perhaps he was omnipotent in ages past, but as the religion of his creations diversified and grew more complex and multifaceted, his form, bound by concepts of divinity and the perception of him by his followers, fractured and became separate beings.

This is just me spitballing rn, but it's somewhat of a similar model to what I'm running in the gods of TBR canon.

The Patheon is him. It was one conscious entity that is Brapture. But the Mortals, the Alkdorians in this case, view Brapture as multiple individual entities, those separate entities are entirely fictional and made up by the Alkdorians. Yet that doesn't defy the fact that Brapture is responsible for having them interpret him as many beings. As those non-existent beings are expressions of his power, the world that Alkdorians live in, and how they see that power expressed in all its many ways from war, harvest, love, and ect.

If that makes sense.
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Postby The Archetypal Future Tech Space Empire » Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:58 pm

Is it becoming a bit of a cliché that the sexuality of people’s characters are mostly described as bisexual? I think it’s just me but is it?
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Postby The Alkdorian Empire » Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:01 pm

The Archetypal Future Tech Space Empire wrote:Is it becoming a bit of a cliché that the sexuality of people’s characters are mostly described as bisexual? I think it’s just me but is it?

Got to keep both doors open I guess.
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Postby Comerciante » Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:02 pm

To be fair who doesn't want to have equal opportunity access to most bedrooms?
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Postby The Archetypal Future Tech Space Empire » Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:25 pm

The Alkdorian Empire wrote:
The Archetypal Future Tech Space Empire wrote:Is it becoming a bit of a cliché that the sexuality of people’s characters are mostly described as bisexual? I think it’s just me but is it?

Got to keep both doors open I guess.

Perhaps.

Comerciante wrote:To be fair who doesn't want to have equal opportunity access to most bedrooms?

Okay, sure, but let’s try not go there lest we want to get reported to Moderation.

Sure if people want to make their characters bisexual, let them, I’m not stopping them because I’m not the one writing their character’s sexuality. But making characters bisexual just for the sake of them saying ‘hey, you may be a (guy/gal) but you so attractive’ is kind of cheap if you ask me.
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Postby The Alkdorian Empire » Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:34 pm

Summerposters.... also called lazy writer, no effort posters.

The Archetypal Future Tech Space Empire wrote:Sure if people want to make their characters bisexual, let them, I’m not stopping them because I’m not the one writing their character’s sexuality. But making characters bisexual just for the sake of them saying ‘hey, you may be a (guy/gal) but you so attractive’ is kind of cheap if you ask me.

I do it for that reason, another reason too. Gaining characters that would perform useful to my Emperor's long term goals.
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Postby The Archetypal Future Tech Space Empire » Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:24 pm

The Alkdorian Empire wrote:
The Archetypal Future Tech Space Empire wrote:Sure if people want to make their characters bisexual, let them, I’m not stopping them because I’m not the one writing their character’s sexuality. But making characters bisexual just for the sake of them saying ‘hey, you may be a (guy/gal) but you so attractive’ is kind of cheap if you ask me.

I do it for that reason, another reason too. Gaining characters that would perform useful to my Emperor's long term goals.

I’m thinking of writing characters who are gay but also suffer from things like an incompatible relationship, toxic relationship, pretty self-assured, gets involved in flame wars, and all those inherently bad human traits.

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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:33 pm

The Archetypal Future Tech Space Empire wrote:
The Alkdorian Empire wrote:I do it for that reason, another reason too. Gaining characters that would perform useful to my Emperor's long term goals.

I’m thinking of writing characters who are gay but also suffer from things like an incompatible relationship, toxic relationship, pretty self-assured, gets involved in flame wars, and all those inherently bad human traits.

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Postby A m e n r i a » Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:37 pm

The Archetypal Future Tech Space Empire wrote:Is it becoming a bit of a cliché that the sexuality of people’s characters are mostly described as bisexual? I think it’s just me but is it?


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Postby Valentine Z » Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:48 am

I have nothing against LGBT+, but I don't think Valentijn fits the bill on either.

"Magically turned into a woman because he got so many people mistaking him."

Maybe a Transgender, but a very instantaneous one.

:P

Which again, mind you, I don't have malicious or satirical intent on him turning one. I just found it funny that way, and also because truth be told, he looks nicer as a woman.
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Postby The Alkdorian Empire » Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:52 am

Valentine Z wrote:I have nothing against LGBT+, but I don't think Valentijn fits the bill on either.

"Magically turned into a woman because he got so many people mistaking him."

Maybe a Transgender, but a very instantaneous one.

:P

Which again, mind you, I don't have malicious or satirical intent on him turning one. I just found it funny that way, and also because truth be told, he looks nicer as a woman.

Valentijn is a cross dresser then, nothing wrong with that.
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Postby Shin-Makai » Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:25 am

The Alkdorian Empire wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:I have nothing against LGBT+, but I don't think Valentijn fits the bill on either.

"Magically turned into a woman because he got so many people mistaking him."

Maybe a Transgender, but a very instantaneous one.

:P

Which again, mind you, I don't have malicious or satirical intent on him turning one. I just found it funny that way, and also because truth be told, he looks nicer as a woman.

Valentijn is a cross dresser then, nothing wrong with that.

Wait, so does Valentijn identify as a man or do they go by she?


The Archetypal Future Tech Space Empire wrote:gets involved in flame wars

I see, an NSGer character.
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Postby Savroyska » Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:32 am

The Alkdorian Empire wrote:Summerposters.... also called lazy writer, no effort posters.

Summerposters thriving in the forum where there literally isn't supposed to be any
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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:39 am

I’ll be correct to assume that summerposters usually are school kids who are on a summer break?
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Laka Strolistandiler wrote:I’ll be correct to assume that summerposters usually are school kids who are on a summer break?

I'm pretty sure that's the definition
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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:07 am

Here’s a cliche: whenever nuclear weapons are used it ALWAYS leads to th end of the civilization. Like seriously doesn’t civil defense, missile defense exist? Nuclear war can be role played in a very interesting way, for example states struggling to maintain a war effort after the destruction of some critical industries
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Postby Tsiyaou » Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:14 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:Here’s a cliche: whenever nuclear weapons are used it ALWAYS leads to th end of the civilization. Like seriously doesn’t civil defense, missile defense exist? Nuclear war can be role played in a very interesting way, for example states struggling to maintin a war effort after the destruction of some critical industries

Or even a nation which exists only on a network of bunkers across the former terrority
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Laka Strolistandiler wrote:Here’s a cliche: whenever nuclear weapons are used it ALWAYS leads to th end of the civilization. Like seriously doesn’t civil defense, missile defense exist? Nuclear war can be role played in a very interesting way, for example states struggling to maintain a war effort after the destruction of some critical industries

I feel attacked-

nah im kidding er i have a nuclear war timeline and even the canon timeline where nuclear war didn't happen a few bombs were launched
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Postby Comerciante » Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:57 am

Nukes in CFC were only effective because both sides had exhausted their war chests. All the Defenses were down and all the Powers just said to the other powers "I'm not going down alone."

Even then some of Earth got away alright more or less.
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Postby Aikoland » Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:00 am

People threatening to sue this site because they got warned/banned is one of my fave clichés tbh.
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Postby Savroyska » Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:01 am

Aikoland wrote:People threatening to sue this site because they got warned/banned is one of my fave clichés tbh.

...What?

I guess they're just pissed off or something, but it still sounds hilarious because of its absurdity
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Postby Valentine Z » Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:01 am

Aikoland wrote:People threatening to sue this site because they got warned/banned is one of my fave clichés tbh.

Aiko really wasn't kidding with you guys. :lol:
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Postby Savroyska » Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:02 am

Valentine Z wrote:
Aikoland wrote:People threatening to sue this site because they got warned/banned is one of my fave clichés tbh.

Aiko really wasn't kidding with you guys. :lol:

LMAO
:rofl: :rofl:
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Trois États, Une Impératrice
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A small Francophone nation located on a group of islands to the south of France. Primary territory of the nation consists of three main islands, the states as described in our national motto, along with smaller less populated islands surrounding them.
Official Nation Name: The Empire of Aikoland
Government Type: Parliamentary constitutional monarchy
Head of State: Empress Élisabeth IV
Head of Government: Prime Minister Mélodie Bélanger
Population: 5.8 million
Official Language: French
Current Year: 2021

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